OGA Community Copyright (c) 2011 ExpressionEngine tag:oga.org,2011:09:02 scrotty13 tag:oga.org,2011:index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/.46 2011-09-02T08:17:13Z scrotty13 A player hits a ball presumably out of bounds.  The player hits a provisional ball and lands on the green.  The player then finds his first ball in play.  He hits his first ball on the green.  The player then picks up what he thought was his provisional and pockets it. When the other player notices that the wrong ball was picked up.  The player then returns the pocketed ball to what is deemed the correct position on the green.  Does the player who picked up the other players ball incur a penalty?  The players were playing stroke play.

]]> Hitting flagstick tag:oga.org,2011:index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/.37 2011-05-04T07:07:24Z dpbirdie While putting you hit the flagstick laying on the ground where your playing partner place it. What is the penalty? Thanks,

]]> Penalty for re-drop when not allowed by the rules? tag:oga.org,2010:index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/.30 2010-09-01T09:26:32Z JOHN S Craig,  The drop procedure seems to be misunderstood, even by experienced players, particularly about when a re-drop is required/allowed.  Rule 20-2 specifies 6 scenarios when a ball MUST be re-dropped including: ?“A dropped ball must be re-dropped, without penalty, if it: (vi) rolls and comes to rest more than two club-lengths from where it first struck a part of the course.”  Ruling 20-2c/1 clarifies this even further:

20-2c/1 Dropped Ball Rolling Out of Prescribed Dropping Area
Q. A player taking relief under the Rules sometimes appears to obtain more relief than he is entitled to because the relevant Rule allows him some latitude within which to drop and the dropped ball then rolls some distance from the place where it was dropped. When a Rule prescribes an area within which a ball must be dropped, e.g., within one or two club-lengths of a particular point, should it be re-dropped if it rolls outside the area so prescribed?
A. No, not necessarily. Provided the ball has been correctly dropped (Rule 20-2a) and does not roll into any of the positions listed in Rule 20-2c, it is in play and must not be re-dropped.  In particular, under Rule 20-2c(vi), the ball may roll up to two club-lengths from the point where it first struck a part of the course when dropped, and this may result in its coming to rest an appreciable distance farther from the condition from which relief is being taken. For example:
(a) a ball dropped within two club-lengths of the margin of a lateral water hazard may come to rest almost four club-lengths from the hazard margin without the player being required to re-drop it under Rule 20-2c; and
(b) a ball dropped away from an immovable obstruction within one club-length of the nearest point of relief may come to rest almost three club-lengths from the nearest point of relief without the player being required to re-drop it under Rule 20-2c.

My question is, what is the penalty if the player chooses to re-drop the ball (or then possibly even placing it) even if the ball hasn’t rolled the required 2 club lengths from the initial ground contact spot, and then he/she plays out the hole having taken a re-drop that was not allowed under the rules? 

John S.

]]> Rule 24-1 tag:oga.org,2011:index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/.36 2011-03-24T19:07:13Z Carlos If a person putts on the green and their ball goes way by the hole and another opponent quickly picks up the flagstick that was laying on the green? Is there a penalty? What if his partner or caddie moves the flagstick while the ball is in motion? Please help Thanks, Carlos.

]]> hitting wrong ball tag:oga.org,2011:index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/.35 2011-01-04T05:45:58Z rgreen what if any is the penalty

]]> Playing Golf Under the Rules In Unpleasant Course Conditions tag:oga.org,2010:index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/.32 2010-11-16T13:15:34Z Eric Yaillen With the rainy season here, golfers who want to abide by the Rules of Golf need to understand how to deal with unpleasant course conditions.  if you think “Winter Rules” is the answer, you need to look further.  There are specific rules for Embedded Balls Through the Green, Cleaning Ball and Preferred Lies which are vastly misunderstood.  Regardless of whether Preferred Lies, or other Local Rules are in effect, the golfer is still required by the Rules of the USGA Handicap System to post all scores.

]]> Lost ball tag:oga.org,2010:index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/.29 2010-07-13T14:38:57Z edruschie the player hit his ball into a tree and thought it went into a hazzard ,instead of looking for it he said to his partner he would hit a provisional ball ,he hit it into the hazzard as I watched it go out. he then hit another ball from the same spot to the edge of the green . upon heading towards the green he found his original ball !  Question can he play the original after hitting a third ball from the original spot ?

]]> causing ball to move in hazard tag:oga.org,2010:index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/.28 2010-07-13T14:32:35Z edruschie a player after locating his ball in a hazard attemped to get into position to hit by doing so he caused the ball to move after which he picked up the ball and went to the drop area and hit the ball to the green and refused to take a penalty was he right or not

]]> Use of GPS Devices in Competition via Cell Phone tag:oga.org,2010:index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/.27 2010-02-03T01:50:23Z edlee99 My rules question concerns the use of Distance Measuring devices (in my case specifically a GPS device) during competition.  I know that many clubs and organizations will allow the use of these devices in tournament play, although it is unclear if this includes a measuring device that resides on a cell phone (iPhone).  Normally, the use of a cell phone during tournament play is prohibited. 

Any information you could provide would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

]]> Holing ball while flagstick is still in. tag:oga.org,2010:index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/.26 2010-01-24T13:12:49Z L Flores Is there a penalty for holing the ball while the flag stick is still in??  I putted from off the green and the ball came to rest very close to the hole, I was going to tap in while the flag was still in and my playing partners told me that I had to remove the flag before I holed the ball or I would incur a penalty .  If this is correct could you direct me to the language in the “Rules Of Golf”.  I have looked through the book but cannot find anything yet.

Thanks

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