Oregon Golf Association (OGA)

OGA Community http://www.oga.org/index.php/Community/forum/ OGA Community en Copyright 2011 2011-10-04T09:26:28-08:00 Did You Know, taking a “mulligan” does not negate your score for Handicap purposes? http://www.oga.org/index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/48/ http://www.oga.org/index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/48/#When:09:26:28Z Sure, “mulligans” are a relatively frequent occurrence on the golf course, but they are not recognized under the Rules of Golf. However, the USGA Handicap System doesn’t want to eliminate a round that contains seventeen holes of valid scores if a “mulligan” was played on a single hole. So, for handicap purposes, the hole score made with the mulligan is tossed out and replaced with a hole score that is not considered out of the ordinary for the player, based on his Course Handicap. The adjustment for that hole becomes par, plus any handicap strokes the player should receive, as per Section 4-2 of the USGA Handicap System Manual (‘Holes Not Played or Not Played Under the Rules of Golf’). For example, a player with a Course Handicap of eighteen receives a stroke on every hole, so the hole in which a mulligan was used would be par plus the one stroke, or a bogey. Important to note: A score must NOT be posted to a USGA Handicap Index if a majority of the holes are not played under the principles of the Rules of Golf. In an 18-hole round, a majority would be 10 or more holes. 2011-10-04T09:26:28-08:00 scrotty13 http://www.oga.org/index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/46/ http://www.oga.org/index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/46/#When:08:17:13Z A player hits a ball presumably out of bounds.  The player hits a provisional ball and lands on the green.  The player then finds his first ball in play.  He hits his first ball on the green.  The player then picks up what he thought was his provisional and pockets it. When the other player notices that the wrong ball was picked up.  The player then returns the pocketed ball to what is deemed the correct position on the green.  Does the player who picked up the other players ball incur a penalty?  The players were playing stroke play. 2011-09-02T08:17:13-08:00 Two Adjustments To Handicaps Are Required When Multiple Tees Are In Play http://www.oga.org/index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/42/ http://www.oga.org/index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/42/#When:14:48:59Z You must do TWO adjustments when TWO sets of tees are in play! You’re playing a game with your buddy, and he wants to play the back tees (course / slope rating is 72.0/135) and you want to play the middle tees (course / slope rating is 70.0/126). Let’s assume that after converting your Handicap Indexes to the respective slopes on your two tees, you both wind up with Course Handicaps of 12. You’re ready to enjoy an equitable game, right? WRONG! Slope by itself doesn’t equalize the game when two sets of tees are in play. Because your buddy is playing a harder set of tees, and in essence a different golf course, as indicated by the course rating of 72.0, you will need to do one more adjustment, which is to give him – yes, as hard as it might be to accept, it’s a fact – TWO STROKES (the difference in the ratings, which is 72.0 – 70.0 = 2). This procedure, described in Section 3-5 of the USGA Handicap System, must be completed for men vs. men from two different sets of tees, women vs. women from two different sets of tees, and women vs. men from the same set of tees. It is a Rule of Golf and cannot be waived. 2011-07-12T14:48:59-08:00 Hitting flagstick http://www.oga.org/index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/37/ http://www.oga.org/index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/37/#When:07:07:24Z While putting you hit the flagstick laying on the ground where your playing partner place it. What is the penalty? Thanks, 2011-05-04T07:07:24-08:00 Penalty for re-drop when not allowed by the rules? http://www.oga.org/index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/30/ http://www.oga.org/index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/30/#When:09:26:32Z Craig,  The drop procedure seems to be misunderstood, even by experienced players, particularly about when a re-drop is required/allowed.  Rule 20-2 specifies 6 scenarios when a ball MUST be re-dropped including: ?“A dropped ball must be re-dropped, without penalty, if it: (vi) rolls and comes to rest more than two club-lengths from where it first struck a part of the course.”  Ruling 20-2c/1 clarifies this even further: 20-2c/1 Dropped Ball Rolling Out of Prescribed Dropping Area Q. A player taking relief under the Rules sometimes appears to obtain more relief than he is entitled to because the relevant Rule allows him some latitude within which to drop and the dropped ball then rolls some distance from the place where it was dropped. When a Rule prescribes an area within which a ball must be dropped, e.g., within one or two club-lengths of a particular point, should it be re-dropped if it rolls outside the area so prescribed? A. No, not necessarily. Provided the ball has been correctly dropped (Rule 20-2a) and does not roll into any of the positions listed in Rule 20-2c, it is in play and must not be re-dropped.  In particular, under Rule 20-2c(vi), the ball may roll up to two club-lengths from the point where it first struck a part of the course when dropped, and this may result in its coming to rest an appreciable distance farther from the condition from which relief is being taken. For example: (a) a ball dropped within two club-lengths of the margin of a lateral water hazard may come to rest almost four club-lengths from the hazard margin without the player being required to re-drop it under Rule 20-2c; and (b) a ball dropped away from an immovable obstruction within one club-length of the nearest point of relief may come to rest almost three club-lengths from the nearest point of relief without the player being required to re-drop it under Rule 20-2c. My question is, what is the penalty if the player chooses to re-drop the ball (or then possibly even placing it) even if the ball hasn’t rolled the required 2 club lengths from the initial ground contact spot, and then he/she plays out the hole having taken a re-drop that was not allowed under the rules?  John S. 2010-09-01T09:26:32-08:00 Rule 24-1 http://www.oga.org/index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/36/ http://www.oga.org/index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/36/#When:19:07:13Z If a person putts on the green and their ball goes way by the hole and another opponent quickly picks up the flagstick that was laying on the green? Is there a penalty? What if his partner or caddie moves the flagstick while the ball is in motion? Please help Thanks, Carlos. 2011-03-24T19:07:13-08:00 hitting wrong ball http://www.oga.org/index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/35/ http://www.oga.org/index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/35/#When:05:45:58Z what if any is the penalty 2011-01-04T05:45:58-08:00 Beyond the Rules of Golf http://www.oga.org/index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/34/ http://www.oga.org/index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/34/#When:14:08:34Z An OGA Member recently called stating, “I certainly know the Handicap System is a different book than the Rules of Golf, but I thought it described guidelines, not hard and fast rules.” This comment spoke volumes, leading me to believe others might erroneously think the same way! 2010-12-07T14:08:34-08:00 Why We Set the Handicapping Season As We Do http://www.oga.org/index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/33/ http://www.oga.org/index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/33/#When:14:04:27Z I’m often asked why we begin our handicapping season on March 1st, and end it on December 1st. There’s one basic and crucial reason: course ratings and their effect on handicaps. 2010-12-07T14:04:27-08:00 Playing Golf Under the Rules In Unpleasant Course Conditions http://www.oga.org/index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/32/ http://www.oga.org/index.php/Community/forum/viewthread/32/#When:13:15:34Z With the rainy season here, golfers who want to abide by the Rules of Golf need to understand how to deal with unpleasant course conditions.  if you think “Winter Rules” is the answer, you need to look further.  There are specific rules for Embedded Balls Through the Green, Cleaning Ball and Preferred Lies which are vastly misunderstood.  Regardless of whether Preferred Lies, or other Local Rules are in effect, the golfer is still required by the Rules of the USGA Handicap System to post all scores. 2010-11-16T13:15:34-08:00